How to make your own liquid chalk

Sign, sign, everywhere a sign.

Signs they are everywhere. Simple sayings of inspiration, love and life.  Vinyl applied lettering, or use of a stencil or if you are the exceptionally talented and have great patience to learn hand lettering.

I love the new hand lettering craze and if I can master it soon I will start implementing it on some of my wall décor, but until then I will use my shortcut using my vinyl cutter.

With that being said let me share with you how I do my chalkboard lettering style.


One blank board or metal

One can of Rustoleum black chalkboard spray

Vinyl cutter

Vinyl & transfer paper

Color Sidewalk Chalk (I use the Crayola Chalk) or Martha Stewart Erasable Liquid Chalk

Rubbing Alcohol

X-acto knife

Small paint brushes


First thing is prepare your blank if it is wood.  On the “Love you to the moon and back” above I used 1/4″ luan plywood.  For this project I’m using some blank metal signs I bought from HL a couple of years ago, and finally I decided what I wanted to do.

I sprayed two coats on the metal blanks with the Rust Oleum Chalkboard paint and let that dry for a week (it does not require a week, I was still deciding on which sayings I wanted to put on them).

After deciding on the sayings, I went to my Adobe Illustrator.  Figuring out what font to use and the layout always takes me a couple of days to pin down what I want. I used the picture of the already painted blank as my art board within illustrator. (This helps me stay within my borders so that I don’t extend my design pass the edges.)    I like my designs to fit my blank big and as close to the edges I can get. I want my sayings to be seen so they are usually bold and stand out.

I cut the vinyl, remove the lettering, apply the transfer tape and situate it on the blank.  Here’s a tip and the reason why I spray my blank before I create my design.  When you paint (spray or brush) an item, it is best to give the paint a day or up to a week to cure.  That way when removing the adhesive it is less likely it will pull your paint off.  Some people say sand your piece or clean it with tsp.  Those work fine sometimes but it still doesn’t work all the time.  Just take your time and let it dry.

Peel that transfer paper back and you have your stencil for your chalk application.


The one thing I don’t like about chalk sticks or chalk pens is the holidays it leaves when coloring in. So I found the Martha Stewart liquid chalk dauber applicator.  This white chalk goes on so smoothly and fills the area so cleanly.  I just wish it came in other colors besides white. I’M A COLOR PERSON!

Now for the liquid chalk making. So my quick remedy for this is to scrape my sidewalk chalk color crayons with my X-acto blade creating a powder.

I add a little drop of water and start mixing the colored powder, I then add a couple of drops of rubbing alcohol to the mix.  The rubbing alcohol evaporates the water allowing the chalk to dry quicker than it would with just water.  Now as long as the mixture doesn’t have a gritty appearance (if it does I use the end of a chopstick or the end of my bone folder).

Then I just brush it on.  After the chalk dries you may need to do another application to get the color to show.  Some areas I applied to much and others not enough. After it all dries you can take a dry brush and knock off the areas there may be to much.  Make sure you do this before removing your vinyl because you might need to add if you knock off to much.  Once you are satisfied of how your lettering is looking then you can peel back your vinyl.

On the God bless America sign I used the Martha Stewart Liquid Chalk for the word God and the stars.  I love how this product works with stencils.  The words bless and America were done using the Crayola Side Walk Chalk and rubbing alcohol.  When you peel the vinyl back you will get a little chalk debris but can easily be blown off with an air can.

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Why I redo furniture.

Been debating about posting this for the last few days, but I think posting may bring out an understanding that many may not have for those of us that repaint furniture.

For seven years I was a divorced mother of three very active boys.  Remember the van commercial of the mother that drove from one activity to another?  Well that was me for many years.  The first and second (boys) are two years apart and the second and third are 14 months apart. So we had a lot of crossover in activities.  Thank goodness for my family they were my rock when I needed it.

Being THAT single mom, you learn to cut back and THRIFT for your home.  My first thrift purchase, I will never forget, was a dining table for only $30 and it was a Lane.  It was different than anything I had seen, very sturdy and most of all my small family would fit around it.  Since I was crazy running from pillar to post with the boys activities my Mom offered to take it home with her and refinish it.  She too was a single mom of three. The next time I laid eyes on it, it looked brand new.  Instantly loved it and my Mom for taking the time to do it for us. (She is always the best).  I still have the table, unfortunately it is now covered in some of my craft pieces but it is still a part of the family.

Over the years I have bought several dressers, side tables, lamps and what nots for our home from thrift stores because money was tight. In fact all of the pieces I have bought are still used in our home or the boys new homes.  I guess that’s why I got into repainting  or repurposing furniture.  The boys are all very independent and out of the house and I had nothing to keep my personal life busy.  I did remarry in 2008 to a man (I call him The Huny) that is a do it yourselfer too.  The Huny, well he handles the mechanical side of things. Which compliments my artistic sid very well.

So now that I have given you some background as to how I got into this business/hobby of mine I will get to the point of this post.  (Sorry I digressed a little).

The other day I was “fluffing” one of the booths we have in a local store and a customer comes in and begins to look over a primitive piece we refreshed. 

Insert story of this piece:

I loved this piece when I saw it (white granite top not part of the piece);  it had great bones, sturdy and heavy.  It was dirty, grimey with pieces and parts missing along with a few nicks and dings. We still saw the potential in it.  It may not come out as it once was but it would be just as good.WP_20160106_14_51_02_Pro (2).jpg

I immediately started cleaning it (I use vinegar and water to clean my pieces, nothing more). Oh what it revealed; was beautiful Tiger Oak wood (sorry no pics of the after cleaning, I’m really bad about that). I removed the hardware and part of the door piece and the last half of the back of the middle cubby and started sanding everything and every where.  I kept thinking what could I do to salvage this piece to re-stain it.  With all of the chips and nicks most of it couldn’t be refinished. So I saved what I could for staining and then painted the rest.


Now back to the original story:

I spoke up “This is my favorite salvaged piece.”  She agreed it was pretty and that she loved the wood.  We talked a little about the design for storage and what not.  She then says

“If I purchase it I will strip it and stain it, like it originally was.” 

I will admit instantly I was taken back by the statement and thought did she just tell me that?  Instead of being offended and blurting out my feelings of how dare you!  I said.  Oh I so wish I was able to do that for this piece but there were so many nicks, dents and chunks missing on the body we applied filler in many of those places for it to have a clean refreshed look when it was painted.  The top and the drawer front were the only two places we could stain since we could sand to remove any bad blemishes.”  Needless ta say the piece didn’t go home with her. 

I know that some people will repaint a great piece to change it up in their décor and that is perfectly fine.  However, I buy pieces that need a lot of repair and some of that repair does not hide well with stain. So the next  best thing is to paint it.  I do not buy cheap, poorly put together pieces. Most of us in the industry will not buy a piece of furniture unless it is well built; dovetail assembly, heavy, sturdy, etc.

So when you are looking at a piece of repainted or repurposed furniture just know we did the best we could to bring it back to life in some form or fashion.  Just because it looks good painted or repurposed now; could mean that it was a broken down piece before.



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Seems like the busy keeps on coming.

I expanded from custom painting of furniture to painting and selling furniture through a booth.  I rented space through a local store for awhile, realized life was a little bit more busier than I could handle by myself.  So I met my now partner in crime Lisa.  We are a match made in heaven, he he.  It’s crazy how much we are a like but different.  If it weren’t for her there is no way I could be back in a booth.

Our business is Weathered & Worn located within the Funky Monkey Vintage Store in Madison, Alabama.  So if you happen to be in the area stop in and see Darlene and Todd (the owners) and let the know you heard about them from here.  Here are a few pieces we’ve done.

The beautiful drum table painted in Cece Caldwell's Thomasville Teal.

The beautiful drum table painted in Cece Caldwell’s Thomasville Teal.


Our sign for the booth.


This red three sided console painted in Annie Sloan paint.


This shabby painted sitting chair.





I love this kind of busy.  Oh yeah if you are eyeing those funky coral end tables they are awesome.

Fabulous Coral end tables

Fabulous Coral end tables

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A project out of the ordinary…

At a friends request I have stepped out of the painted furniture and vinyl application for a little gift project. The making of a snow globe.  My friend has been looking for a snow globe with chickens inside. Yes that’s right chickens.

So off I went looking for the instructions and recipe to make a snow globe with chickens.  Found many posts about the How-to.  With those posts in mind and a few of my own ideas spinning, I set off to find items that I would use to make this globe.

A few supplies to get started.

 Supplies to get started

  • A jar of your choosing, (just make sure you can get all of your items on the lid).
  • Items to create your scene (in this one we will use rocks and chickens and paint)
  • Glitter
  • Glycerin (found in craft stores or pharmacies)
  • Water proof glue (marine glue is probably the best)
  • Oil based paint

My first search has been the chickens, the best thing I thought of were the plastic figures

WP_20140705_12_24_26_Proyou can get at Tractor Supply or Michael’s of farm and wildlife animals.  But in this case I happen to stop at the Hammer’s in Tullahoma, TN and came across a rooster, and some chickens.


My next search was to find a jar that would house these lovely chickens.  Since I wanted three chickens in the globe I needed to make sure I had a large enough jar to display them.  So wide mouth jar was what I needed to find.  I also wanted to find a jar that had more of a “globe” look not a mason jar look.  I found two jars different heights at Hobby Lobby. So of course I picked the larger one.

After reviewing all the “how-to” posts there was one thing that I didn’t really like on all of the handmade snow globes scenes were low to view.  So I decided I would build mine up to more of a platform.  With my jar in tow I was now on a mission to find something to help lift the figures up into view of the globe. My search paid off.  I used the lid to one of Micheal’s small plastic paint can and the lid of a small pickle jar. Making sure that the lids stacked on top of each other fit within the jar opening.  I used a water resistant quick dry glue to attach these two lids together.

Jar from Hobby Lobby. Small paint can and lid from Michael's. Small pickle jar lid (from my neice)

Jar from Hobby Lobby. Small paint can and lid from Michael’s. Small pickle jar lid (from my neice)

My pickle lid covered in small rock pieces.

My pickle lid covered in small rock pieces.

I needed to cover the pickle jar lid and create a grass like texture for the ground. So I covered the pickle lid with small rocks that I found in the train section of Hobby Lobby. I went out into my own yard and found a rock so that I could perch my rooster on top.  I really wanted to put a more dimension to the view inside this globe. Again using the water resistant quick dry glue to apply all the rocks.  After gluing the lids together and the rocks to the lid I let it cure for 24 hours.  Want to make sure that it doesn’t come apart while sitting in the water all day.






Here is the platform after applying Design Masters Color Tex

Next step is to create a grassy plot for my little chick-a-dees to stand.  I found this wonderful texture paint called Color Tex by Design Master. Love it!! It coats the platform so well. (Looks like icing on cake).

My little rooster looks like he is king sitting so proudly on his perch.  I let the paint dry for 24 hours.  So right here is where I worried whether or not all of this application will with stand sitting in water all day long. So I went a step further after letting the paint dry.  I decide to paint on some silicon (any tube of clear silicon will work), all over the painted platform.  Again let it dry/cure for 24 hours.

Also if you haven’t notice if you decide to do my way for a gift you will definitely need a week to get it complete.  So far we are on night three for process of the project.

Adhering the chickens to the platform.

Adhering the chickens to the platform.

We are approaching the home steps.  Adhering the chickens to their permanent position.   Let them dry.  Fill your jar with distilled water.  I filled the water to the bottom of the neck of the jar.  I added white and iridescent glitter then added glycerin.  Do NOT add a lot of glycerin at this point. Add the glycerin and stir the mixture and watched the glitter fall.  If your glitter falls too fast add a few more drops until the glitter falls slowly.  I put a lot of white glitter in this one because I love a good blizzard. (Well in the globe at least).

Wipe off the rim and thread area of your jar to remove any glitter and water.  The bottom platform piece has a lip that  rests on top of the lip of the jar when put in position.  Apply marine glue to the lip of the platform and place it in position on the jar.  Now apply a bead of marine glue to the inside of the jar lid I placed my bead below the lowest thread. That way the glue would not push out when the lid was tightened.  We want to make sure that the globe leaks.  At this point do not turn the globe “up right” this glue will need to cure for at least 24 hours.

So let it snow, let it snow, let it snow.



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Shame on me…

I know I know I think I fell off the face of the earth too. It has been a really crazy year. Last year at this time (pretty much the last time I posted). We had two graduating, well one graduating and one trying to get there. He took a long detour to graduate but he did and we are proud that he finished what he started. Another was promoted tonight shift manager. Our youngest started his Junior year in high school and football season was a busy season. By Christmas we were exhausted and ready for a new year.

The new year brought a cold winter for us here in The South. A few snow days and the whole place shuts down. If you are not familiar with The South then you should know that we don’t stock up on winter vehicles or salt piles. There’s just no need, we don’t get snow like the mid-west or northern states. Thank goodness we are now into Spring.

We have been busy with vinyl applications and painting furniture.  A few custom jobs and some projects that I have been working on. One of the projects is window art with vinyl application. I absolutely love Winnie the Pooh and a friend had asked for this quote. So I painted and distressed the window using Cece Caldwell’s Vintage White with Aging dust (heavy on the dust).

You Are My Sunshine!!


You Are My Sunshine designed in the “subway art” layout with yellow anIMG_1456[1]d silver vinyl.  the window is painted in Cece Caldwell’s Mesa Sunset (1st layer) and California Gold (top layer), with darkening wax.

One thing there is there are many beautiful quotes and lullabies that mean something to someone.  Hang them in your child’s room, the great room or game room.

Your designs can be as endless your imagination.

Lou Holtz Expression

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And the addiction continues

So after I had the wonderful nerve-racking experience with dresser for a friend in chalk paint I decided that I was going to do a piece the way I wanted to do it.  I love color so I did some color research on the internet looking for that ooooohhhh aaaaaahhhh style furniture and I found a lovely dresser in what I call a turquoise and red color.  I then went out to the popular clay/chalk based paint suppliers and looked for something very similar in color.  I found the paint colors I wanted to use from the Annie Sloan collection.  I went with Florence (turquoise) and Emperor’s Silk (red).  Just love the names of the colors she has.  I nick-named this project the Emperor of Florence. 

I found my little piece of furniture that was in desperate need of reloving, at a local thrift shop for a good penny.  It was a sound piece of furniture just not pretty.  So I don’t have a real good “Before” picture, but here are a few pictures of it after removing the varnish, gum and all else that was on it. 

  After stripping before painting

Here we have started taping it off to begin painting it. We started with red as the base coat.  I love this red. Yummy red!

Annie Sloan paint seems to lay really well on the piece.  We covered everything from the desk to the interior and exterior of the drawers.  (Drawers are just beyond the desk in this picture).



 We let this dry for an hour. Then we changed up the paint to Annie Sloan’s Florence.  Isn’t this just a beautiful color.  It reminds me of Destin Beach Florida with its cool blue ocean water.  Now remember we are applying our paint with a paint sprayer so it is thinned out just a bit so we have applied at least three coats to make sure the red is completely covered.

This is my first time using Annie Sloan Paint so her directions are slightly different.  With hers you paint then apply clear wax and then distress.  I like this technique because it helps keep the dust down from sanding since it is weighted with the wax. So I started hitting the high wear areas of the desk.


I just love how that red just pops with the turquoise.

I once I get all my areas worn down I apply the dark wax to give it a more aged look. If you have added to much dark wax use more clear wax over it to thin it out.  Once I got it to my liking it was time to buff it out.

Now for the top of the desk I decided to go with a dark stain but not as deep as I did with the side tables.  It is the same stain I just didn’t let it soak as long as I did on the other project.  I really wanted the distressed wear of the top to come out in the stain.

IMG_0433 I put three coats of Satin Polyurethane since it is a high wear top. 


Here is the finish product, I hope you love it (or like it) as much as I do.



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My first experience with Chalk paint.

Recently I painted some end tables that my husband’s uncle made for us. 2013-02-2516-41-40 Here is a picture of them.  I did them in the “shabby chic,” with everyday latex paint. I bought a sample jar at Home Depot of a lime green color. The top stained dark with Rustoleum Kona Wood Stain.  Then I covered the tables in Rustoleum Matte finish.  I love the way these turned out.

So I bragged a little bit to my friends of how these turned out and how much fun I had.  After seeing my tables, one of my friend’s mentioned she had bought a dresser for her daughter that she absolutely hated.  The dresser was perfect size and capacity but the color didn’t match the other furniture she had in her room.  Her bed frame was done in the shabby chic white and the bedside table.  So I volunteered to change the dresser.

I gathered my moving crew and went over to her apartment and picked up the “ugly” dresser.Ugly Dresser before makeoverphoto 4

Well my friend was right not badly built but not my cup of tea either.  First to go are those knobs.  Reagan was able to give me a part of her poster bed.  So I loaded it up and took it home, along with my moving crew.

Reagan had mentioned that she would love for the bed to be done with chalk paint. I’m sure my eyes went big when she said that.  I have only read books and watched Youtube videos of how to’s for using chalk & clay base paints.  So I went to a local shop that sells Cece Caldwell paints and took part of the bedpost that I am to match.  The young lady was very helpful with information and paint that would end up matching that of the poster bed.  So off I go nervous as heck hoping I can do this, and I will get this to match.

For a few days I did a lot of research on the Cece Caldwell paint, from watching you tube videos to reading blogs of people who use her paint to sell shabby chic style furniture.  Make sure you do your home work on the chalk & clay paint brand you choose because the process is quite different.

So I had my paint and I had my knowledge now how am I going to apply it.  Brush or spray.  I wanted so bad to spray the item but worried how much would I have to put towards a sprayer that would get the job done and last through many more.  More research.  Thank goodness I have a handy-dandy husband because he turned out to be very knowledgable in this area.  He found one at Harbor Freight and HVLP sprayer. We read the reviews and found a youtube video.  Many reviews said they loved this sprayer and if theirs broke tomorrow they would go back and buy another.  The price was another perk for getting this sprayer (around $120). 

Drawer after first coat of paint.We do a couple of test sprays and find our ratio for the water to paint viscosity. 

With chalk paint you do NOT have to strip the furniture down to bare wood. Just clean your piece of furniture with soap and water, mostly to remove residue.  Then you just start painting. 

So here is a drawer with three coats of paint.  Yes I said three, remember the paint is thinned out to get it through the nozzle.

After your paint dries it is time to distress it and with Cece Caldwell paint distressing is soooooooo simple. NO SANDING is necessary.  Dampen a cloth (I used a t-shirt cloth) and just rub the areas you want to distress.  With this dresser there are a lot of edges so thosephoto 2 photo 14 were the first thing I rubbed, then I took a small scraper and scraped off some paint on the smooth flat surfaces. I worked on the drawers and then put them back in the dresser and worked on the body.  I didn’t want to over do it just to stay in line with the bed I was trying to 13

Here is the post next to the dresser before I apply the wax and top coat.  I was so excited how close this paint was to the bed post I was trying to match.  I applied the wax and topcoat. 

Now just a little advice that I will pass on that my local Cece Caldwell paint expert passed on was to apply the wax and wait until the next day to buff. Boy did I learn this lesson the hard way.  I applied the wax and when I went to buff it (apparently I didn’t wait long enough) a big spot of paint came off. I was not happy and mostly worried. Again my Cece rep was wonderful with asking questions.

photo 9The last thing to do was find some fantastic knobs to go on this beautiful dresser.  These beautiful knobs she found at Anthropology. I love the glass with the rustic metal behind it. 



photo 10

Remember the drawer I thought I screwed up by buffing it to soon after applying the wax. Well it turned out perfect.

We delivered the piece back to Reagan and she loved it, it now looked like a true piece of the bedroom suite.




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A few vinyl projects

So many projects this past three weeks. We will start with my vinyl projects that had a couple of weeks boom. It’s the beginning of baseball/softball Spring season here in Northern Alabama and one of my sister’s has a daughter, Chloe, that plays softball so with my crafty vinyl imagination I created magnets or stickers for softball and baseball fans.


So (with my family connection) I had orders for magnets for baseball and softballs.  


Then  had requests for volleyball and dance magnets.

The next vinyl application I worked on was for my other sister. She also has daughters and they live on a farm, small-scale, but she does have goats, pigs and horses. She found a cute t-shirt online, that had a saying on it for cowgirls. Cowgirl upNow I like the vinyl application instead of the screen printing.  (Yes, I tried screen printing and that is a lot of work, but that is for another time).  The only thing that I have to keep in mind when I’m ready to cute out the vinyl for the t-shirts is that the art work/words have to be mirrored.

So I did this shirt for one sister and her daughters.

My other sister (I’m the middle of three girls and I am also the only one with sons) wanted a t-shirt designed for her youngest daughter.

She Gone Racing

Her youngest daughter has taken on racing.  For those of you racing cars or carts, in this case, is very popular in the South.  And just like her daddy she has the need for speed.  We adapted the expression “She gone” from the Duck Dynasty group. Of course we had to have her signature colors pink and yellow to make it all work.

Well my last project of heat transfer vinyl to an item was for my youngest son, 16,  for his trip to Germany (and for the record, yes, I am very envious).  Since he will be traveling all over Germany for 16 days in May I personalized this little cinch sack for him to take snacks in. He’s a football player so he is always snacking.

Cinch SackI absolutely love creating and designing personalized items for people.  Vinyl is such an easy application to make personalized items for someone special.

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The Chest Project

Well my Studio is still a mess and I have been busy to get it straightened up. That is not going so well, so I have decided the only way I might get this cleaned up is to get the excess furniture out. So I have two chest of drawers, one that I plan on reloving with shabby chic-ness, the other I thought to use for storage and that hasn’t really worked out. There is also and old rolltop desk that the rolltop needs to be reloved (I am not looking forward to doing that; because some love is just tough love).

I started working on this “hope” chest of sorts that we purchased. Sorry, I didn’t get a picture of it before I started my transformation project.

IMG_0075So I started out with black (as seen in the above picture), I didn’t really like it so what else coule I do.  Well I painted it again with white.


Then I got crazy in love with this turquoise color and decided that this should go on the inside.  Please don’t freak out because this is not a cedar lined chest so I haven’t ruined it.


(Really ignore the background of the lid picture). 

I just love how this white and turquoise look so crisp. 

Well you know me I just couldn’t leave it at that and had to mess it up a little.  One of the reasons I went further and shabby chic’d it is because of the hardware that is on this big puppy.


(at this point I hadn’t distressed the top, I just laid it up there to see the difference)

So I applied my topcoat and finished it off with putting the hardware back on and Viola here is the finished product.



Doesn’t the inside look like a pool of water you could just dive into?  Can you tell I’m excited about Spring?



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My studio…what a mess!

So with my crazy hectic schedule my studio suffers. Back in OctoberThe studio being delivered. I purchased a small 10′ x 20′ metal building now known as my Studio. Before the studio my dining room and dining room table were taken over by my vinyl and crafting supplies. Half the dining room had my desk, computer and vinyl cutter and the other half had my table covered in vinyl rolls. I didn’t take a picture of that mess, it was a little embarrassing. So before we could have Christmas in my house I needed to get my “stuff” out.

So we hurried to get all of it into the studio before we had finished it off.  I figured we can do that later when it gets warmer (I am beginning to dread that decision).  So it is now March and I have stuff this studio like a loaded potato.

This view is from my desk and as you can see I have put a roll top desk on the left This view is from my desk(had that desk in my dining room and worked from it) and on the right is an old dresser we had for one of my sons I bought a really beautiful french Provincial style dresser for a steal at the local thrift for only $60 (I will post that project when it comes time to redo it).  So I have the roll top stuffed full of gadgets and the dresser has more of the vinyl in it.  Eventually I will have a rack type system to hang my vinyl just haven’t decided what I want.  The table in front is my working surface.  I have bought a self-healing cutting mat to preserve the top.

Again a view from my desk towards the double door entry A view towards the doors(which I absolutely love, to have both doors open while I work) this helps with those large items.  Here you see my husband, a dresser and a stack of pails.  Oh yeah few rolls of vinyl on top of several things.  I’m getting ready to do some decorating on the pails for a Bark for Life event coming up in April.

Here is another view where a chest of drawers is hiding the second door.  The chest I am redoing and will be posted for sale at a later date.

photo3And finally a view of my desk and everything that is on my side.  My desk is a converted kitchen table. I found this table at a man’s house that goes and buys contents of storage units.  I paid $25 for the table.  I think I paint a design on the table eventually just haven’t decided on the design yet.  My 36″ vinyl cutter is on the back wall, along with a hutch cabinet that my neighbor was going to throw out.  Eventually I plan on putting a cabinet over to the left there so that I can store my vinyl.  I’m thinking I want a wine bottle X design.  I have got a lot to clean up and put away so that we can start finishing the walls off with insulation and sheet rock.  I will post pictures and updates as we get through the stages.  Right now I will just work with it the way it is now.

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